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Two tech giants have a conversation by the fireplace: Huang Renxun predicts the next wave of AI, Zuckerberg warns of this' nightmare '

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At the SIGGRAPH graphic conference held in Denver, USA this morning Beijing time, Nvidia founder and CEO Huang Renxun sat down with Lauren Goode, a senior writer for Wired magazine, and Mark Zuckerberg, founder and CEO of Meta, a metaverse company, to have two hearth talks and envision the future of generative artificial intelligence.
The next wave of AI is robots
In a conversation with Lauren Goode, Huang Renxun stated that he believes the next wave of AI is physical artificial intelligence, also known as robots.
The first wave was accelerated computing, which can reduce energy consumption, followed by enterprise customer service. We hope to give every organization the opportunity to create their own AI, "explained Huang Renxun.
He added, "The next wave is physical artificial intelligence. It requires three computers. One is used to create artificial intelligence, another sends instructions to robots, and the third computer processes transactions
We are entering the era of humanoid robots driven by artificial intelligence, "said the physical AI video demonstration.
NVIDIA provided a detailed introduction at the conference on how to accelerate the development of humanoid robots. The new products include NIM microservices and frameworks for robot simulation and learning, OSMO orchestration services for running multi-stage robot workloads, and remote operation workflows that support AI and simulation, allowing developers to train robots using a small amount of human demonstration data.
In addition, MimicGen NIM microservices can generate synthetic motion data based on remote operation data recorded by space computing devices such as Apple Vision Pro. Robocasa NIM microservices can generate robot tasks and simulation ready environments in OpenUSD.
Huang Renxun also introduced an AI driven customer service agent. It contains knowledge of human customer service representatives, can visually interact with customers, and even make corresponding facial expression changes based on the tone of the conversation.
However, Lauren Goode believes that using such human like customer service agents may raise ethical issues.
It still looks a lot like a robot, which is not scary, "Huang Renxun responded." Although we have made digital human technology realistic, we still know it is a robot. Having someone more human than a text box can at least help lonely elderly people, which is a good thing
Huang Renxun depicted a world where people from all walks of life have their own personal AI, which has learned how to do things in a way similar to humans.
For example, Huang Renxun is envisioning creating an AI version of himself based on collecting every sentence he has said or written, which can generate reactions almost identical to his own.
Without AI, there would be no Nvidia's latest designs, no Hopper or Blackwell. Our philosophy is to enable digital AI to enhance every aspect of the company's work. We create and invent tools to do things we couldn't do before, "said Huang Renxun.
Zuckerberg is very excited
In the second fireplace talk, Zuckerberg also expressed optimism about the future of AI.
Zuckerberg said, "The progress of AI basic research is accelerating. There are many new things that need to be built, and this is a rather crazy era. Based on current artificial intelligence model technology, they still have five years of product innovation time in the future
He believes that one day, every enterprise will have an AI agent to communicate and interact with customers.
Zuckerberg stated that the Llama 4.0 model will be able to become an agent. You give it a command, and after completing the research and calculations, it will provide a reliable answer in a few weeks or months. Meta just released the Llama 3.1 model last week.
During the conversation, Zuckerberg also inadvertently announced that Meta has launched AI Studio in the United States. AI Studio is built on Meta's latest Llama 3.1 model, which allows users to create their own AI characters and interact with fans.
As an important supplier of Meta, Huang Renxun has not forgotten the "business talk". He praised Meta's Llama open-source model for helping more developers and companies acquire AI model technology.
In January of this year, Zuckerberg announced on Instagram that Meta plans to purchase 350000 H100 GPU chips from Nvidia by the end of the year.
But nightmares have also arrived
However, in the conversation, Zuckerberg also described a terrifying AI nightmare: in the future, your social media platforms will never last because of AI generated content tailored for you.
With generative AI, we will soon enter a stage where most of the content you see on Instagram is not just recommended to you through algorithms from content that matches your interests in the world, but many of these contents will be generated by AI tools, "said Zuckerberg.
Some of it will be new content created by creators using AI tools, while others will be generated instantly by AI or integrated based on existing content
Zuckerberg added, "The ultimate goal of these platforms is to keep you engaged. They will extract souls from creators based on the content you like, generate new content, and disguise it as social media articles. But I don't want to get involved
Exchange jackets again
As the conversation by the fireplace came to an end, Huang Renxun responded to the previously discussed photo of exchanging jackets: "This was taken after we had dinner together last year
At the scene, Huang Renxun and Zuckerberg once again exchanged a jacket with each other. Zuckerberg said that he customized a black fur collar fur coat for Huang Renxun. Huang Renxun gave Zuckerberg an iconic leather jacket as a gift.
Huang Renxun claimed that this leather jacket was bought for him by his wife Lori to celebrate this year's SIGGRAPH conference.
This leather jacket is obviously more valuable because you've worn it, "Zuckerberg joked.
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